EXCLUSIVE! What’s Really Going On With Jenelle Evans: The Truth About Her Status with David Eason, Her Money Situation & Claims of Other Reality TV Show Offers

“Dude…it’s not true…and stuff…”

Jenelle Evans has spent the last week or so updating her fans on her happy life in Tennessee, away from her estranged husband David EasonThe former Teen Mom 2 star has also indicated that she is going to be “exploring other TV options” once her ‘Teen Mom 2’ contract officially ends in April.

The problem? Most of what Jenelle is saying is not true.

The Ashley has gone through some of the things Jenelle has said recently in interviews or on her new-and-improved website blog to find out which, if any, have truth behind them. The Ashley’s sources also provided insight into what’s really going on with Jenelle in terms of her marriage, her living situation, her finances and her “other TV options.”

Let’s get started….

Jenelle’s Claim: She is going to start considering other reality TV options after April.

You can say that again!

Jenelle stated in a recent YouTube video that she has “been in talks with certain people here or there” about coming back to ‘Teen Mom 2’ or getting another show. In an interview with E! News last week, Jenelle claimed that as soon as she is contractually able to, she will be “exploring other TV options.” 

“Once April comes around, I can start talking to other networks, thank God!” she told E!

The Truth:

Jenelle was telling the truth about the non-compete clause in her Viacom contract. The contract she signed before she was fired states that she can not do a competing reality show with another network for one calendar year, without the permission of Viacom. Her non-compete clause expires in April, so legally she would be allowed to pursue other reality TV ventures.

However, The Ashley’s source tells her that there are “no other opportunities on the table for Jenelle right now at all.” 

“No networks have expressed interest in working with Jenelle because they know that she is toxic to any show she appears on, with or without David at this point,” the source added. 

The Ashley’s MTV insiders tell her that, for a short time after Jenelle first left David in October, the higher-ups of ‘Teen Mom 2’ had tossed around the idea of bringing Jenelle back in some form.

“But that’s not happening anymore. They do not want her back whatsoever,” the production source stated.

Jenelle’s Claim: She is happy living in Nashville and is not  back with her husband David.

“They’ll never figure it out if we wear these disguises!”

Jenelle has claimed that she and David are still separated but are being “civil” for their daughter Ensley. (Of course, over the weekend, David and Jenelle were spotted dining and drinking together in downtown Nashville with Ensley nowhere in sight, and a week ago, Jenelle was photographed in her bathroom at the house on The Land.) Still, Jenelle has claimed that she is not with David.

The Truth: Jenelle and David are 100 percent back together, The Ashley’s sources tell her.

“They are together and actually have been for about a month now,” The Ashley’s source says.

The source also revealed that David and Jenelle reconciled right around the time she dropped the restraining order she had against him.

“The split was real but didn’t last long,” the source added. “They have been in constant contact lately and are back together, but Jenelle doesn’t want to admit it yet.”

Jenelle’s Claim: She’s happy living in Tennessee and will be staying there.

“Life is great. Honest.”

In a newly posted blog on her website, Jenelle writes that moving to Tennessee “was the healthiest decision I’ve ever made whether it was worth it or not. This time has given me a lot to put into perspective about my family and living my life.” She has also indicated that she will be staying in Tennessee for the foreseeable future.

The Truth: Not so. The Ashley’s sources tell her that Jenelle and David are going back and forth between Tennessee and North Carolina right now because they are unsure where they want to live. However, she may be forced to move back to The Land in North Carolina regardless.

“She is broke and scrambling for money,” the source said. “Both [her and David] are broke. Jenelle is unable to continue to pay the rent of her Tennessee apartment. She will deny that she’s broke but she’s barely getting by right now.” 

In fact, The Ashley’s source tells her that Jenelle has not been able to get any social media sponsorship deals either, so she currently has no income coming in.

She recently secured a promo deal with Brush X. Jenelle did a instructional video and promo for the hair styling product, but over the weekend the company yanked the photos and videos of Jenelle from their Instagram (and had Jenelle remove the promo from her Instagram), once Jenelle’s haters informed the company of Jenelle and David’s previous history. 

Jenelle’s Claim: She and her mother Barbara are getting along.

When you hear your “bitch of a daughta” blame you for ruining your relationship…

“It’s the same way; it’s on and off everyday,” Jenelle said in her recent YouTube video. “She can have a good day, she can have a bad day. She’ll bring up a bad topic that I don’t want to talk about and wants to argue in. It all depends on her mood that day.”

The Truth: Barbara is currently not speaking to Jenelle, due to her getting back together with David.

“Barbara and Nathan and [Nathan’s mother] Doris put everything aside [in November] to help Jenelle leave David, and now they all feel betrayed and dumb for helping Jenelle,” The Ashley’s source tells her. 

RELATED STORY: Photos Prove Jenelle Evans Is Back on “The Land” In Home She Shares with Estranged Husband David Eason

(Photos: MTV)

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  1. I agree with you regarding the children, she needed to take out at least five years from any male contact and spend that time with her kids and family, I had done that after my first marriage which was DV at the age of 20 I married it only lasted 2 and half years as being raped was my last straw unfortunately I fund out I was pregnant due to that marital rape but my parents helped me even though I eventually moved back as he had broken into my house, and I couldn’t prove it, so with two ankle bitters I retrained as a RMN and worked dam hard as he never paid nothing, Janelle should do the same you don’t need a man all you need is support from family and get your head together for the kids.
    I do have a happy ? ending and that is I met the most wonderful caring man five years down the years he walked into the ward I was working as part of his nursing secondment and we have been married over 30yrs with a daughter together who is 23 yrs old and has two degrees my boys are doing good ? and living there lives as well adjusted adults, I would love to see Janelles children the same but I fear that Jace is the only one with that prospect.


  2. I guess she isn’t hiding it anymore…. her recent Instagram of enslie is on ‘The Land’ also her podcast posts yesterday he was showcasing her wedding ring again.


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      It sounds so stupid when they call it “the land” like it’s something special. Why can’t they talk like normal people and just say “We’re going home.” Or “We’re going back to North Carolina? South Carolina?” Whichever one it is, instead of “We’re going back to the land.” What is it? Land of the Lost? Land of the abusive? Land of the Liars? Land of killing innocent animals? The list goes on about what kind of Land they are living on.


    1. She definitely isnt bothered now shes posting as if nothing ever happened. I feel sorry for those kiddies especially kieser.


  3. I feel so sorry for the kids who will.have nothing bc of of lurch and j choices. I can’t imagine Christmas and birthdays after this and the fact that no one is watching probably means they won’t be doing much of anything for them. Let alone the abuse that comes with living with lurch.


  4. I feel so sorry for the kids who will.have nothing bc of of lurch and j choices. I can’t imagine Christmas and birthdays after this and the fact that no one is watching probably means they won’t be doing much of anything for them. Let alone the abuse that comes with living with lurch.


  5. Maybe I’m just hoping to stir up more drama because it’s what I love so much about this site, but I’m super curious of what Jenelle’s rebound ex-boyfriend of 2.5 seconds (Herbie? Did I get his name right?) thinks of all this and what how UBT feels about her “dating” someone else while they were “separated”.


  6. As others have said, the next show she and lurch will show up on is Marriage Bootcamp. THAT is why she’s back with Lurch. that’s what she’s talkin’ bout Willis.

    The fake breakup didn’t work for MTV, but it’ll work for Marriage Bootcamp since that’s the bottom of the barrel type show that will pick up any scum from the bottom of the pond. My guess is that her hookin’ up with that other guy is just part of the show. Since her lame attempt at getting back on MTV by breaking up with that d@ck didn’t work, she knows where to go to get money so she doesn’t have to work. Then she’ll end up like Farrah…a slut who does porn just to make ends meet since all her lame businesses go bankrupt (like Farrah…hows that yogurt shop and furniture store doing, huh Farrah?…oh right…you skipped out on the landlord and closed the doors…)


    1. SWEAR TO GOD if the let those two abominations on Marriage Boot Camp, the HAVE to bring Herbie as a “surprise guest”. I would actually watch it if I knew for sure that they’d drum up that drama.


    2. You all forget that wishing bad on jenelle is wishing bad on her children. Everyone wants her to smarten up and she definitely should.. taking business oppurtunities from her hurt her children as well. How do you think life is for these poor children? She still has Kaiser and Ensley and if shes struggling, they too are struggling. Internet heroes need to take a step back, for real.


      1. Maybe she should stop putting her life out there, then she wouldn’t face so much backlash.
        No one at all wishes anything but the best for those poor kids.
        So don’t get the dislike for Jenelle , meaning dislike or ill feeling for the kids.


      2. Maybe she should stop putting her life out there, then she wouldn’t face so much backlash.
        No one at all wishes anything but the best for those poor kids.
        So don’t confuse the dislike for Jenelle, as dislike or ill feeling for the kids.
        The kids are screwed with her as a mom.


  7. I think it’s so sad that Jenelle has lost everything in her life because of one disgusting vile man who is the reason her chance at a happy life is over. What will she do no skills.no job history No one’s.goung to hire her. And the kids are the ones who will suffer. I know that deep down she is scared and sad. She won’t admit it but what she lost with MTV is so much.All I see for her is a stripper or porn. She always thinks she needs a man WHY???? She is really in trouble I just hope for the best for her and I hope those poor kids survive the dog slaughterer.


    1. No one anywhere would hire her as a stripper. Street corners are where she’ll be found next. It’s her only option now


    2. Jenelle lost everything because of Jenelle. David could be swapped out for a John, Steve, Kiefer, etc. She was always heading to being kicked off MTV and losing it all because she’s lazy, selfish, childish and entitled.


    3. [* Shield plugin marked this comment as “Trash”. Reason: Failed Bot Test (expired) *]
      I agree with you regarding the children, she needed to take out at least five years from any male contact and spend that time with her kids and family, I had done that after my first marriage which was DV at the age of 20 I married it only lasted 2 and half years as being raped was my last straw unfortunately I fund out I was pregnant due to that marital rape but my parents helped me even though I eventually moved back as he had broken into my house, and I couldn’t prove it, so with two ankle bitters I retrained as a RMN and worked dam hard as he never paid nothing, Janelle should do the same you don’t need a man all you need is support from family and get your head together for the kids.
      I do have a happy ? ending and that is I met the most wonderful caring man five years down the years he walked into the ward I was working as part of his nursing secondment and we have been married over 30yrs with a daughter together who is 23 yrs old and has two degrees my boys are doing good ? and living there lives as well adjusted adults, I would love to see Janelles children the same but I fear that Jace is the only one with that prospect.


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    My mom died unexpectedly last week & my world as I once knew it has been disintegrated. As I’ve sat here TRYING to read ANYTHING to distract my brain, I got lost in wondering how some POS like David is still here, yet the world lost a beautiful soul, my mother.
    David is a sick individual, him & Jenelle both are. A product of their childhood environment I suppose, & the cycle will more than likely continue. It’s both sick & sad.
    Some people need to rot in hell -DAVID EASON!


    1. @ DEBORAH BURNS.
      I’m so very sorry to hear about your mom, I lost my mother to cancer, so I can feel your pain.

      Sending prayers and hugs to you.


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      I am so sorry for your loss, sounds like your mum was a great mum just like mine was so follow on her legacy in being the same, at this moment the hurt, anger, sadness is raw we learn to live with it but we never forget your mum was your mum and the only mum, I talk to mine and not a day goes by I don’t think of her, just like your mum might have done when she lost her mum. My thoughts and my heart ❤️ are with you from Scotland x


  9. Good. Hope there are no more contracts or sponsored deals. The world needs to stop rewarding bad behavior. There are too many turds getting paid for being jerks. Enough is enough.


  10. “Barbara and Nathan and [Nathan’s mother] Doris put everything aside [in November] to help Jenelle leave David, and now they all feel betrayed and dumb for helping Jenelle,” The Ashley’s source tells her.

    Maybe they’ll fucking LEARN from this experience, let her hit rock bottom, and get the kids the fuck out of there.


    1. I just think for the kids it’s really really sad. She has lost everything because of one disgusting vile man. He.destroyed her the.kids and everything she ever had. It’s a shame she always thinks she need a man. I don’t get it .How will she live she has no skills no one’s going to give her a job .Im pretty sure she’s pretty scared right now but she won’t admit it. She’s gonna have to be a stripper or do porno. That’s the future I see for Jenelle. And I hope those innocent kids survive the dog slaughterer.


  11. I said from the beginning this is a ploy to get her job back at MTV if they don’t renew her she’s gone up go right back to him.. They were broke and needed the money so they thought this was the best plan and it back fired.. Could not have happened to better people. They deserve this karma their children don’t


  12. It was obvious she will get back together with him. It’s not like she can be single for one second. It’s terrible for the kids, her and well…everyone. David hates Nathan’s guts so ofc they won’t get along anymore, not forgetting to mention Barbara…I hope CPS intervenes again and takes the kids away FOR GOOD!


  13. I hope someone permanently takes those kids. The courts screwed up last time, and then Jenelle admitted that he was abusive on multiple occasions to her and her children. She doesn’t deserve those sweet babies.


  14. This is what happens when someone can’t be single for a hot second. Her history is going from soulmate to soulmate to soulmate. She won’t leave one until another comes along. I know there is a cycle with abused women but she was out and her kids were safe so I don’t feel badly for her if something happens. (Sorry but my concern will go to the women who cannot get out of these relationships due to a lack of evidences, finances and support). However I fear for the children and animals on The Land. Hopefully no matter the outcome, they will all end up safe.


  15. This isn’t even surprising, sadly. Jenelle is a selfish, waste of a human. Always has been, always will be.


  16. Didn’t David boast about being an “investor” after he got fired? He basically ran Barbara off “The Land” during a visitation drop off/pick up for bringing brochures and info to Jenelle on how to invest/save for the future. He told Babs not to tell them what to do with THEIR money! Anyone can make money in this economy. How is it that “Investor Dave” is broke???? lmfao

    Babs must be so pissed that Jenelle pissed away a fortune because you know she’ll be shaking Babs down for money all while blaming Babs for being the bad guy…..


    1. I was thinking the same thing…I also think this “divorce” was a ploy to either get back on teen mom, and if that failed, her and David thought Marriage Boot Camp would take them both. This girl think’s shes so much smarter than everyone else, but we all see through the bull.


  17. I totally called they would get “back together” by Valentines Day. I really don’t think they ever broke up. This girl has some serious abandonment issues. Herbie broke up with her and she was back with David, the guy who basically ruined the best opportunity she would ever be offered in her entire life, hours later because she can’t be alone. She is pitiful, and now she’s going to have all her kids back around a monster. She claims to be in therapy, and it clearly isn’t working. I can’t imagine any therapist advising her to work on her disaster of a marriage.


      1. Herbie’s comments make me wonder if they even slept together. I think he didn’t want to sleep with her so that’s why they split. So in David’s eyes maybe, she wasn’t really unfaithful.


  18. By Jenelle’s own admission, dog murdering David made life on THE LAND a hellish house of horrors for her, the kids, and her poor defenseless pets when they still HAD money.

    Just imagine the level of swampish terror it’ll be now — without it.

    I’m thinking the local NC police department should set up a separate call center to handle all the “collar bone breaking” cop calls to come from these two drugged up idiots.

    SMDH


  19. I’ve said it so many times! MTV needs to cut ties with everyone minus Chelsea, Tyler and Cate, and Cheyenne, and maybe Maci (Chattanooga moon myself) and cut ties with the rest of ‘em! There are a few others I don’t mind watching, but they don’t bring much that’s worth viewing to the table anymore. Those 4 all have healthy relationships, show the struggle of mental health problems and /or are able to show young viewers it’s ok to ask for help, it’s ok to have a great parenting relationship with your babies father/mother and spouse and the struggles of addiction in your family which is a huge problem in this world right now!


  20. She needs her family to help her not going against her I know my husband family don’t like me at all like her we feel alone


    1. Are you seriously saying jenelle’s mother and her ex, Nathan, AND his mother didn’t try helping her? They’ve gone so fucking far out of their way to try and help this garbage bag for the sake of her children. Jenelle has been digging her own grave for so long with her horrendous choices, it’s now time that she lay in it. She obviously hasn’t learned by now and she will never will! No sympathy for her, only those poor kids.


    2. They have helped her plenty of times, she’s still does the same shit, this is her own doing, and there’s only so many times you can help someone, she needs to want to help her damn self she’s a grown ass woman.
      Jenelle is an ungrateful pos.


  21. Karma’s a Bitch ain’t it
    J&D? So she basically ran back to D when Herbie dumped her like we thought.
    Let someone else raise your kids, they deserve better than the both of you.
    Kill each other WE don’t care as long as your kids are loved & safe.
    Oh and 1 more thing.
    GOOD JOB HATTERS?
    J & D ? WE WILL NEVER FORGET!! RIP NUGGETT??


  22. David needs to fill out some applications along with Jenelle and get off her ars and get a real job instead of sitting around making tik toks all day and recording sh*tty promo videos for Chinese based products while she ships off her kids.


  23. I call bullshit on the split ever being real. They were hoping to get back to MTV cause those drugs and weapons aren’t for free and neither of them know what “working” means. Poor children were dragged into this mess AGAIN. The only thing I absolutely love about her is that she tied her tubes.


  24. Dear Ashley and sources, thank you soooo much for updating us! Can you and sources please continue to keep us in the loop with more updates? Y’all are so appreciated and loved for putting the truth out there and shutting the b.s. down. Xoxo to you and your sources!


  25. Rose colored glasses are on full display on both ends because they had some time apart and are both currently behaving. I predict there will be a summer drinking/pool party where all Hell will break loose, and the cycle of abuse will be running rampant once again. Those poor kids deserve so much better than to have these maniacs as parents/step-parents.

    PS Jenelle is such a moron. She was free. : (


  26. How long until she’s asking Babs to hook her up with some of her Deli contacts so she has a job?? We all know the medical assisting course she did was BS. And David doesn’t like to work when he’s got so much “fuck’n rak’n” to do!


  27. Oh Jenelle, stop trying to play the public,. You aren’t smart enough to make it a real game.

    Maybe you should try to get a job in the medical field where you can “save lives”. Isn’t that what you claimed to be qualified to do back in the day when you called your mother a loser for working at Walmart? That woman deserves a far better daughter than you, and your kids deserve a better mother. The very best thing you could do for your kids is to sign away custodial rights to all four kids (Jace, Kaiser, Einsley and Maryssa) and no longer subject them to a life of abuse and chaos. I was rooting for you to make better life decisions but clearly you have no interest in improving your life.

    Keep this in mind—Karma always wins. You reap what you sow and you have sown some really ugly karma.


  28. I knew from the get that she and dog killer Dave cooked up this whole break up lie in hopes of getting her back on the MTV payroll. She never filed for divorce , likely never filed for separation. The only ones that I have any care and sympathy for are the innocent children and animals. As far as the child neglecting animal abuses and murders go, they can rot in hell .


  29. How on earth is Jenelle broke? Making what she made over the years, she could have easily had hundreds of thousands in savings. How is it that my fiancé and I are able to get by, paying for rent & for the care of our daughter, on a LESS THAN $50k/year salary, but Jenelle is broke after making millions over the years? Oh that’s right, her money went to frivolous expenses like daycare for kids that didn’t need it, and guns.


    1. Drugs, lawsuits, trucks, boats, land, house, eating out all the time, kids in school/daycare… did I forget anything? With a husband who doesn’t work it’s not that hard to blow through that money.


  30. I find it amazing these girls really thought they could temper tantrum not film, not this, not that and could keep their half a million dollar a year jobs. I hope they cut ties with all of them


  31. Nothing honestly gives me more gratification than seeing this creature be forced to get a real job in the real world off TV and social media. Welcome to real life. You actually have to physically work to pay your bills.

    I genuinely feel really sorry for all of her children, though. They really were given no shot in life having her as a mother as well as their fathers. I’ve never met someone as selfish as this Bloatasaurus Rex.


  32. Exactly what I guessed. She did leave David, but the SECOND things fell through with that other guy she immediately ran back to David. That girl cannot handle being single. So damn sad. I’m sure she will leave him again someday, but only for another man. She will never willingly be single – even if it means putting her own and her children’s mental and emotional safety into danger.


  33. Let me be the first to say how shocked and disappointed I am by this… NOT!!!! Everyone knew the spilt wasn’t real, the move to TN wasn’t real. She’s the literal definition of a SOCIOPATH. Barbara needs to cut ties with Jenelle for good for Jace’s sake. And Doris needs to go to court for custody of Kaiser. There’s nothing more that can be done to help this deranged girl. There aren’t enough words in the dictionary to describe what a horrible, disgusting, waste of live she is. Unfortunately, Ensley’s pretty much stuck there. It’s so pathetic that she lost EVERYTHING because of her big foot looking, swap creature of a husband and yet she crawled right back to him. Shameful. I hope David kills her ass and she rots in hell like the vile piece or shit she is


  34. DEFLECT, DENY, and LIE. Hopefully J and D will be so broke. That the kids will have to live with someone else. When D is in Tennessee who feeds the animals? Trailers sell real cheap once they are already set up. I think they are giving up the trailer because D has a goat in there pooping on everything. D has to play the drums like his Daddy. I’ll be glad when Kaiser grows up and beats the hell out of all of them.


    1. That’s what I’m wondering. While some of those animals can survive and live off the land like they try to do, but there has to be someone feeding the other ones. unfortunately David’s probably killed most of them by now.


  35. I’m not a fan of Jenelle and I absolutely agree with any and all companies (especially MTV) cutting ties with her. But this deeply saddens me. First of all, of course she will be hurt again in this relationship. She’s going to continue being berated online. With no one to turn to, a constant stream of hate, and no job or healthy coping mechanisms to fall back on, of course she’s going to cling on to anything that will temporarily boost her ego. Ashley, you should start sharing links to support for domestic abuse, child abuse, and animal abuse so there is at least one message of hope at the end of your posts.


    1. Jenelle stated she has someone to talk to she has a Therapist and they live chat instead of her going to her office, because she understands Jenelles a single mother & doesn’t have time to physically go to her office for appointments.


      1. I wonder if having a therapist was true, and what she thinks about J&D being back together. And of course if she is out of money, we all know who is supporting them, we the tax payers, it’s called food stamps ect.


      2. It’s against the law for a woman to stay with a abusive man according to CPS. I have seen many women lose their children because they choose the monster they claim to love. These monsters end up killing the children most of the time. Not sure if anyone lives by Jenelle in Tennessee but if you do, I would call CPS and let them know that Jenelle has it on record that David has abused her and her children. If CPS in Tennessee doesn’t do anything, then we as a society must raise hell wherever we can.


    2. She had help and she slapped help right in the face. She was AWAY. She had gotten AWAY. And she made a conscience decision to not only return herself, but her children to that piece of shit abuser.


    3. And it’s all her own damn fault, I’ve no sympathy at all.
      My concern is for the kind and the animals, they are innocent in this.


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      She literally has no one. Not saying that isnt her own fault but someone needs to think of her children. If she has nothing and no one..she could go to extreme measure.. ppl have hurt themselves and children for way less


    1. Hey Ashley! What’s the real 411 on her coparenting with Nat?
      Has she really blocked him again?
      Is he getting to see Kaiser?
      And where is Kaiser attending school at right now? Because if he’s in TN school still & Maryssa is in NC how will that work for J&D?
      Any updates on Kaden and his support?


  36. So… as we all expected, she yet again doubles down on her bold faced lies in her (cringey) YT video that turns out to be more lies than truths.
    Shocking… not at all…
    If she hasn’t learned by now it’s pretty safe to say she’s a lost cause.
    Would anyone ever believe another word out of her mouth? No chance!
    She has had SO MANY opportunities to fix herself and has only used those to create more chaos and remove any last bit of respect someone (not me!) might have had for her!
    Time to own her choices!!
    She owns a lot of those!!

    Also, the TN move is likely just another run from adult responsibilities on the homestead, uh I mean swamp! The way she was able to just drop all those animals that she “loveedddd sooooo muchhhh” without a glance back pretty much tells her tale!

    ALL WITH A STRAIGHT FACE!!
    She is unquestionably pathological & diagnosable.


  37. She is sooooo self-destructive and delusional. She has lost every and any opportunity that has come her way. She could have set herself up for a great future, but she can’t get out of her own way.


    1. Jenelle is such a dumb ass. Doesn’t she realize that David ruined everything for her? Then David just desperate for his purse back took her back after she blinked another guy. Wonder what state she will escape to the next time he beats her ass?


      1. You just know he is the type of sicko that will throw Herbie in her face every single time they have a fight, too.

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