‘Teen Mom’ Star Catelynn Lowell Throws Shade at Biological Daughter Carly’s Adoptive Parents Brandon & Teresa Davis On Social Media: “Enjoy Your Bad Karma”

“…but let’s be honest, we’ve said way worse!”

Another day, another social media call out from Catelynn Lowell (and/or Tyler Baltierra) aimed at biological daughter Carly’s adoptive parents, Brandon and Teresa Davis. 

As Teen Mom fans know, Cate and Tyler placed Carly for adoption immediately after her 2009 birth. While the pair have maintained a relationship with Carly, Brandon and Teresa over the years, there have been many ups and downs along the way–- largely due to Cate and Tyler’s decision to publicly discuss their adoption experience to the dismay of Brandon and Teresa, who have asked the MTV couple not to post about them or Carly (or share photos of Carly’s face) on social media. 

Less than three months after Cate and Tyler sounded off on social media after learning they wouldn’t not be getting their annual visit with their biological daughter this year, Cate has once again taken to the Internet to complain about the complicated relationship she has with Carly’s parents.

“I am about to write a strongly worded letter to adoption counselor Dawn. Warning, it may even contain the word H-E-double hockey sticks.” 

Cate expressed her current feelings towards Brandon and Teresa Sunday on her Instagram Story, where she reposted a TikTok of a birth mom seemingly criticizing the semi-open adoption arrangement she has with her own biological child’s parents. 

“‘Semi open,’ me keeping my cool when the adoptive parents would get mad when I would ask to see my daughter in the open adoption they agreed to,” the text on the TikTok read. 

The TikTok reposted by Cate had some harsh words in the voiceover, which seemed to be aimed at Brandon and Teresa.

“You have massively f**ked me over. I will never think of you the same. Enjoy your bad karma, rot in hell, evil bitch.”

“It’s fine! Everything is FINE! Yay adoption!”

While Tyler has yet to chime in on Cate’s recent Instagram Story, fans may remember him coming to Cate’s defense back in May after the pair were denied the chance to see Carly for their annual visit, insisting it was not Carly who had wanted to cancel the visit. 

The following week, Tyler went on to address the opinion some ‘Teen Mom’ fans have that Carly will come “running back” to her birth parents once she is an adult and able to make the choice on her own. While Tyler told fans he would “LOVE for [Carly] to be in our lives more and her sisters’ lives,” he said he also understands there is a possibility that Carly may choose to exclude him and Cate (and their three daughters) from her life once she is an adult. 

“The truth is, she might turn 18 and want nothing to do with us,” he wrote. “It just might be too difficult for her or she simply might just want to move on with her life & not have us be in involved…& ya know what? That’s OKAY! That is her right! That is her choice! Or she might want to just talk to us one final time & tell us how much our decision to place her has negatively affected her or traumatized her life…& that’s OKAY! 

“I would humbly fold my hands behind my back, lower my head & allow her to yell, cry, or scream at me if that’s what she needs,” he continued. “All I would say is ‘I’m sorry. You’re right. I love you.’” 

In his (lengthy, per usual) comment, Tyler went on to say that he’s “okay with whatever decision” Carly makes and just wants her “to know how much she is loved.” 

Similarly, Cate took to Instagram to recognize Carly’s fifteenth birthday in May, expressing her desire to have a better relationship with Carly and her parents. 

“This is probably not the best way to achieve that, Cate…”

“Today is Carly’s 15th birthday!” Cate wrote. “I wonder what kind of day she’ll have and what she’ll do. I wish things were different so we could celebrate with her. I hope she feels our love and has a great day! I look forward to knowing that one day we will be lucky enough to celebrate with her and B&T. I can’t wait for that day! 

“[Tyler] we are soooo blessed to have our girls,” she added. 

Watch the full video of what Catelynn posted— complete with audio— below!

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(Photos: MTV; Instagram) 

93 Responses


  1. I am also thinking of Nova. She loves her big sister. If she can’t see her older sister again that would be heartbreaking. People don’t bring up the siblings of children affected by adoption people like me. My brother was placed for adoption when adoption was closed. I hope Carly has a relationship with her sisters. My brother will always be my brother.


    1. I seriously doubt that. Nova parrots an extraordinary amount of her parent’s feelings. Her “bond” with Carly is largely due to Cate’s constant indoctrination and telling her about Carly.
      Considering Nova’s age and how few visits she’s actually had with Carly that kind of real bond would be impossible. It’s the idea of her sister that Cate keeps pushing, not Carly as a real person.


  2. I guarantee this is partly Carly’s choice too. She’s old enough to say no. She’s also old enough to be criticized by her peers for the bullshit her birth parents do on tv and social media. If C&T really cared, they’d STFU.


  3. Teresa and Brandon are terrible role models…….. By them not allowing Cate and Tyler to be involved once a year, which isn’t too much to ask, they are making other young women think twice about adoption. Don’t these idiots realize that they are making open adoption look bad to young women in crisis! This is very sad, and I think the repercussions will be fewer adoptions.


    1. You have NO idea the kind of crap people in open adoptions actually go through, that much is obvious. Brandon and Theresa have done nothing but protect Carly at every turn. Catelynn and Tyler are the ones that put her life in an uproar every time they get their little knickers wet. They are choosing behaviors that are causing themselves to be excluded from her life. No one makes those choices, except them. If they want to act the way they do, they can’t be surprised when people treat them exactly as they deserve.

      I assure you, NO ONE is getting a bad impression of open adoptions based on anything Brandon and Theresa have done. If anything, it’s the bozo twins that are giving the bad rap. I can also assure you, neither couple is going to be some primary or main cause for fewer adoptions.

      I say this as a foster and adoptive parent who has not only dealt with people like Catelyn and Tyler, but have a child who is currently not having the greatest life because of behavior almost exactly like their behavior has been since day one. Stay in your damn lane.


    2. If you are not involved in adoption, keep quiet. You don’t know anything. It’s not simple. They asked not to post … CT post. It’s their own fault. .. mygrandchild didn’t tell her friends they were adopted for a long time, it’s complicated so just but out.


    3. Cait and Tyler bring Butch and April with them.
      April apparently got drunk last year. Cait needs to take it up with her mom. Or write a nice letter apologizing for April and maybe Tyler’s OF and promise them they will come alone with just the girls for a visit and they will STFU on SM.


  4. It seems B&T didn’t want a yearly visit this year for undisclosed reasons. Do we know for sure they have cut them off completely? For all intents and purposes, this is still an open adoption. Sometimes traveling is hard on families when kids have camps, vacations, work, friends. It could be as simple as that. They are busy like everyone else.


    1. I don’t know how true this is but I saw a comment on IG saying that their Open Adoption agreement with them getting the yearly visits was for the first five years and after that it was up to Brandon and Theresa’s discretion but again I could be wrong.


    2. I can guarantee you it was indeed Carly who didn’t want the visit. Maybe she had other things she wanted to do, maybe she’s bothered by Catelyn and Tyler or the crap we all know she probably gets from kids who have seen the bs on the internet, who the heck knows, lol. She’s a teenager and perfectly capable of making up her own mind and her parents have already proven they will move heaven and hell to protect her. I have taken the heat from bio-parents when kids decide they don’t want a visit too. It’s what you do when you’re a good parent. It’s the exact opposite of what the bozo twins do. The fact that Catelyn and Tyler can’t seem to grasp what the word no means, just proves that they need to be cut out completely.


  5. Those people lied to Tyler ad cate open adoption means to have them involved they shouldn’t have agreed to that if they were barely going to allow them to see her. They took advantage of two kids.


    1. Open adoption means exactly what it states in the contracts they ALL agreed to-and no two contracts are EVER the same. It doesn’t mean “when we say no, you can keep insisting because you haven’t yet evolved past the temper-tantrum-having-toddler stage of life where you make demands and expect people to bow to your whining”.

      Catelyn and Tyler messed up their own ability to be in Carly’s life. No one did that to them. Their behavior is a prime example of exactly why they, even now, shouldn’t be parents to a dead fly much less children.


  6. Open adoption really means nothing more than the fact that you know who adopted your child. As opposed to years ago when children were adopted and 20 years later they set out to search in vain for their biological parents. Anything else that may or may not have been implied are really just extra and should not be required or expected. This fucking around that C & T are doing is what is going to mess up Carly. Not the adoption itself. Yes, C & T were not given the best guidance on this adoption but they knew it was for the best. Hind sight is 20/20. No one knows what the next day will bring. No one knew the show would go on and C & T would have more money. However money doesn’t mean they were mature enough to be raising kids. They just would have had the means to do so but not the maturity. They both have their demons that they can’t seem to get under control – especially Cate. Again, not the ideal environment to raise a child but it also doesn’t mean someone should not have children. They made the right decision and they need to accept it. I don’t think they ever really did. They have 3 beautiful girls that need their full attention. Carly is good. Let her be. Let her grow and make her own decisions. Be the adult here and let her live in peace with her family. If you love her the way you claim to, let her be.


    1. Incorrect it can mean anything you both decide on and they establish exactly what it would be and Carly’s parents have went back on what they agreed.


      1. Where did you get a copy of the documents? I’d love to know exactly what it says. Clearly you must have a copy to argue that B&T are in violation of what is written there.


  7. I think Brandon and Teresa dealt with their sh*t for far too long. They want what is best for their daughter and that includes not speaking to her birth parents. Why is that so hard to grasp Cate?! You sell your husband’s willy for profit online and you are the one to talk about how someone should live THEIR life?! Even if Carly didn’t directly say it, she might have hinted at how embarassed is that these hillbillies are still talking about her online and in a show after so many years. She’s a TEENAGER now, she’s figuring it out how things really are and I’m pretty sure she will cut all contact when she is 18. You did it to yourself, now live with it. And for the love of God, stop talking about this. Brandon, Teresa, Carly and her brother (I think they adopted a son the second time?) want privacy. Please give it to them.


  8. The way they are acting towards Carly’s parents, she will see all this trash on social media and probably decide NOT to go to Tyler and Cate. I know I wouldn’t if I was Carly. Let them raise their adopted daughter without issues from her biological parents. Grow up, pay your taxes and worry about that!


  9. I can understand B&T not wanting C &T to post pictures of Carly’s face. However, it is absolutely insane for B&T to demand they don’t speak about the adoption publicly. They get to talk about it all they want. They get to have feelings about it and share them publicly. B&T should be more grateful for the gift of parenthood that they received and stop being so controlling.

    Idk something about B &T has always rubbed me the wrong way. I just feel that if you have to pick up the baby you are adopting from the street corner because the hospital won’t let you do the hand off there….. then how you’re handling things is probably somewhat shady.
    Also, adoption agencies are notorious for misleading or outright lying to biological parents about the amount of contact they will have with the child after the adoption. Not to mention the predatory nature of how andopt agencies market to teenagers.


    1. They never asked them not to talk about the adoption and their feelings in general, they asked them to stop talking about their personal conversations and Carly’s life. They didn’t sign on to be a part of a fifteen year long reality show and they (including Carly) deserve their privacy. B+T wanting the best for their child and to raise her in peace and away from C+T’s toxic lives is in no way being controlling. They actually went above and beyond what they originally promised (visits until five years old) and only pulled back because of decisions C+T made.

      Catelynn and Tyler can talk about their feelings about dealing with the adoption without all the private stuff being blasted on the internet and TV, but they’re too immature and entitled to do so.

      Brandon and Teresa are very grateful for Carly and they’ve said that many times, but they don’t need to bow down to Catelynn and Tyler for the rest of their lives for being chosen to be her parents. If they wouldn’t have been chosen by C+T, they would have still ended up being chosen by another birth mother and still gotten a baby (proof is the fact that they adopted a second time). C+T should be equally as grateful that they found loving parents for Carly that are giving her a good, normal life.

      While I agree the adoption agency didn’t do enough to make sure C+T completely understood how an open adoption works, I do recall Dawn going over the paperwork and at least trying to explain things to them, they just weren’t mature or smart enough to really grasp it. The agency should have had actual lawyers that go over that stuff with them. But it’s not B+T’s fault that two teenagers didn’t understand what they were agreeing to.

      The exchange on the sidewalk was because April didn’t agree to the adoption, I believe, amd the hospital wasn’t allowed to have it happen on their grounds since Catelynn was a minor. This may make the adoption agency seem shady, but definitely not Brandon and Teresa since they’re not even from Michigan and don’t know all the adoption laws.


    2. This is the only answer. They agreed to it on this show to adopt their child. They do not get to control their feelings and experience but they did agree to a semi open adoption


  10. Cate & Tyler seem like the older they get, the more immature they get. They were so level headed the first few seasons of Teen Mom. They had ambitions and knew the decision they made was the best for their child. I was really impressed with them. They seem like completely different people now. It’s not just the onlyfans thing. I think they are just nastier people than they were before. What kind of parent goes on social media and calls the woman raising your child a nasty name like that? That is repulsive.

    C&T have repeatedly ignored B&T’s requests to respect their privacy. C&T have nobody to blame but themselves for B&T cutting them off (if they have even cut them off). Also, I get the feeling that B&T are more conservative and don’t want their daughter influenced by C&T for doing onlyfans. I can’t blame them for that either.


  11. Catelynn,

    Please get a journal and a new therapist. This isn’t a good look.

    Taking spats to social media is not cool, considering Carly may very well read what you are posting and hear what you choose to say on TV.

    That being said, I do agree with other in that there should be legal counsel for teenagers and adoption.


  12. I understand how complex this situation must be for everyone involved. It’s hard. But Cate & Ty chose to give her up for adoption. Meaning they handed over ALL parental right to B&T. So if Carlys Parents decide that she is not going to see them, we have to assume they are working with what they feel is best for their child at that moment in time.
    Cate & Ty, have repeatedly disrespected B&T on multiple occasions by talking about & posting pics of their daughter all over social media. Ty is talking about the trauma Carly may have from their decision but she may also have that from the fact you have repeatedly disrespected the two people raising her.
    Open adoption is complicated but ultimately the parents get to call the shots.


  13. You know the best way to keep any sort of relationship with someone you care about calling their mother an evil b*tch and telling her to rot in hell. or telling her you wish bad karma on her.

    Cate and Tyler need to get a new therapist because this sh*t isn’t working for them.

    Cate and Tyler were misled about open adoption, but in all cases with open adoption, the adoptive parents can close it for whatever reason. So yes, I get that Bethany Christian Services is completely predatory and awful for what they did.

    Carly is not their child, understand Cate gave birth to her, she will always love her, but she’s not her mother she is her birth mother. And while that is a special place it’s not the same as the person who is raising your bio kid day in and day out.

    We have no idea why B&T have made the decision to not allow for visits. They could have reasons to deal with Carly that have nothing do to with C&T and they are trying to shield their daughter from the blowback. But it could be completely because of C&T, they have asked for years to keep Carly off SM and they keep posting her, I don’t care if it’s the back of her, just stop. They have asked you to stop talking about Carly publicly and they refuse to respect that. Tyler also has been doing OF, full-on from what I have heard. And B&T are very conservative Christians, I’m not surprised they don’t want their daughter associating with an adult entertainer.

    I feel like they need to stop using SM to let out their frustration and go talk to someone, go out in the woods and yell. Even write a letter and throw it in trash. Like some people really need not to be on SM.


  14. “Or she might want to just talk to us one final time & tell us how much our decision to place her has negatively affected her or traumatized her life…& that’s OKAY!”
    Bold of him to assume that’s the only possibility here. He hasn’t even considered that she could be super grateful to have been placed with B + T, raised by adults who had the emotional tools to love her well. Or, even more likely, that she could tell C + T that what negatively affected her was THEIR behaviour this entire time.


    1. I have a funny feeling cate & Ty will start trashing Carly once she has the ability to tell them she wants nothing to do with them.


      1. I have the same feeling. This has become too much about them and not Carly’s well-being. You’d think since having kids of their own that they would’ve matured enough to back off to always try to make sure they are acting in her best interest, but they always centre themselves in this.


  15. Wasn’t the adoption open until age 5? Then it was up to B&T whether they continued with visits etc. They should not allow teenagers to place babies for adoption without providing them with legal council so they are fully aware of all the terms and fine print, if they knew what they were signing back then, they wouldn’t be so upset about it now (I do believe Dawn went over the papers with them explaining all this, and they still didn’t get it though)


    1. All “open” adoptions aren’t really open. They can’t be. The adoptive parents can close for any reason.

      Its in a way a double edge sword. If you notice odd behavior in the birth parents, or they become unsafe for the child person, close it, move, never tell them a single thing. But in some cases, I have heard that some people will say whatever they need to get the child, and once they have it, close it immediately and never tell the kid until they are much older.

      From what we have heard in the past Kim has sent gifts and letters to Carly since she was born. And that was allowed. So I don’t know if Carly is getting them, I’m sure they could confirm at the previous meetups. But why doesn’t Cate and Tyler do that? Send letters, put pictures in if you want. I think that was always allowed. And Tyler said they never did that. I don’t know why.


      1. Incorrect many adoptions are what you both agreed on when it’s open. You make the arrangements beforehand


      2. That is not true many open adoptions are what you both agreed on when it’s open. You make the arrangements beforehand


    2. I looked at a screen shot they showed of the papers and it says that both parties must understand that it is not a legally binding agreement. The adoption was legally binding but all the terms and things C&T requested in writing such as visitation etc was not. So B & T could have cut them off the second the adoption was finalised if they really wanted to. But they followed what was written in the non legally binding contract and as soon as they fulfilled all the things C&T requested they started distancing. In the paperwork it doesn’t say they are required yearly visitations, it says C&T may request visitation in the future and its to the discretion of B&T to determine what’s in the best interest for Carly and I think they only did some of the visits because of the pressure they were under because of Tyler and Catelynn talking about them online and on the show. But they should have had a meeting with the kids and explained to them HONESTLY what they were willing to provide for them until Carly was 18, and not lead them on as it was obvious C&T thought they were going to be able to be in her life a lot


      1. Sadly, places like Bethany Christain rely on uneducated young girls with families who aren’t the greatest, like you know Cate’s family, to kind of do these techinally legal but unethical things.

        From what I know about adoption in the US in general there is no such thing as a legal open adoption. All adoptions are technically closed, and it’s up to the adoptive parents to discretion always. I think it does make sense because it’s hard to agree to something that you have no idea if you will be able to fulfill for both valid and sometimes stupid reasons for 18 years.

        I wish that they would pass laws that at least give these young mom’s access to a legal advocate, not even necessarily a lawyer, just someone who can really explain things to them, and make sure they are fully aware of what they were signing.

        B&T live in NC and C&T live in Michigan I highly doubt they thought they were going to be seeing Carly all the time, but maybe more often then they did. And definitely thought they would be friends, but I think that was just children’s fantasy, not reality.

        I think for C&T’s mental health it would have been better to know what the reality of these adoptions looks like. But at the end of the day, C&T were in no position to raise a child.

        Look at Butch and April, what were they going to do, except ruin another kid’s childhood. Kim was a solid middle-class single mom, she works for USPS, she was in no position to raise another child, nor did she want to. Cate had just been living with her grandmother right before filming because April lost custody of her and just got her back. And no one expected C&T to be so trauma bonded they never broke up. Nor did they expect TM to take off and make them wealthy and famous. They were only picked because they were the only adoption storyline.


    3. So.
      Take it one step further. Let’s say Cate and Tyler demand in their agreement to have visits every Year. Phone access after the age of 10, to attend all school events and be consulted on major decisions. No adoption would take place. Because any prospective adoption parents would know that that’s too much .So it leaves Cate and Tyler keeping their baby .This is an extreme example but my point is it was Cate and Tyler who were in need. They could at any point stopped the adoption. Nobody forced them. And it was SEMI open. Visits until 5 years old.
      Cate and Tyler have brought this on themselves.
      They , especially Cate are more entitled, ever year.
      And Cate isn’t thinking about Carly. She’s thinking about herself.
      And she uses the “sisters” angle too. Nova’s attachment to Carly is mostly Cate’s constant indoctrination and not a real bond.


  16. Today is Carly’s 15th birthday!” Cate wrote. “I wonder what kind of day she’ll have and what she’ll do. I wish things were different so we could celebrate with her. I hope she feels our love and has a great day! I look forward to knowing that one day we will be lucky enough to celebrate with her and B&T. I can’t wait for that day!

    How many I’s did she put in that post?? Made it totally about herself…Imagine just writing a simple, “happy birthday Carly! I hope you do something fun and amazing and have a great time celebrating the beautiful person that you are!”


  17. Assuming Teresa isn’t a narcissistic, selfish, evil mother, I hope Carly sticks with them and doesn’t let C/T break her down. Poor Carly probably gets that nervous, scared, sharp feeling in her stomach every time C/T post or say something about her online. It has to be awful and I don’t understand how C/T don’t think of CARLYS FEELINGS every time they spew this trash on the internet.


  18. What favors do Catelynn and Tyler think they’re doing themselves here? They oughta try thinking of Carly’s feelings sometime. She’s going to one day see all of this (if she hasn’t already) and it’s gotta hurt her to see her birth parents cutting down the parents who have raised her.


  19. they told them they would be able to see her frequently and be able to have a bond with her—this has not been the case and yes I blame her adoptive parents. they did not have to have an open adoption but they did. Cate and Tyler have had a rocky go of life due to immaturity and no guidance but they love their kids and seem to have grown up. I realize she is 15 but they should be texting and having communication with her and so should the other kids. Not right how this has been handled at all.


    1. Do you know Catelynn and Tyler? Because your comment makes it sound like you do. While I agree that Brandon and Teresa should be holding up their end of the bargain when it comes to the adoption, I can imagine that Catelynn and Tyler’s continued association with Teen Mom and their behavior both on the show and on social media doesn’t make B&T feel secure enough to let C&T have access to Carly. And at the end of the day, they are her parents and they are doing their job as parents by protecting Carly from anything and anyone who might harm her, even if it’s C&T.


  20. I think Cate needs therapy to deal with her emotions surrounding the adoption. Cate and Ty struggled with the choice, and a big part of the reason was financial. If they knew that they would be on Teen Mom and be able to support Carly, they would have kept her. Because of this, Cate’s anger is misplaced. She probably regretted the adoption when, shortly after, she was making the money she needed to live on her own and realized she could have supported Carly.

    This is not the fault of Brandon and Theresa. Cate doesn’t know why the visits aren’t happening. If it is Carly’s request, B&T aren’t going to betray Carly and tell Cate that. Cate needs to have far more respect.


      1. I’m not saying she’s “so well off.” I don’t know what her financial status currently is, how much she owes, or her ability to pay it. I just know that her financial situation improved dramatically not long after Carly was adopted. And I would guess that, if the main reason for the adoption was financial, it would be difficult to come to terms with that. Money opens up a lot of doors. Giving up you baby to those closed doors, only to realize not long later that most of them are now open, has to be hard.

        Again, not the fault of B&T. Carly is their daughter and it seems that they are good parents to her. Cate and Ty gave them a gift, but B&T gave one to Cate and Ty as well. Best thing Cate can do is work hard to have a good relationship with B&T in the hopes that Carly will want to have a relationship with her when she is old enough to decide for herself. Looks like Cate is not doing this and is letting her emotions get the best of her.


  21. I think in the tik tok it’s implying that the “you have massively fucked me over” part is coming from the adoptive parents. So Catelynn isn’t echoing that about them, she’s saying that’s how they talk to her.


  22. having just scrolled thru and glanced at pics so far ~ um, cate?
    CARLY ISN’T YOUR DAUGHTER!! how have you failed to realize this in 1️⃣5️⃣ years?
    also, the tiktok filter is working overtime. 🙃😹🙊
    (now off to read the actual article 📜🤓)


    1. it was an open adoption—the adoptive parents have played games with them for years—no matter what mistakes Cate and Tyler make these people promised them a connection they have denied–it will come back to bite them when this young girl grows up, hopefully she will be able to handle things but if not it can affect her bad in many ways


      1. It was a semi open adoption, meaning it was always at Brandon and Teresa’s discretion about visits (at least after the first year).


      2. I don’t think that’s true. If it were, they still wouldn’t have an adoption counselor. My granddaughter, who is now a teenager, joined our family as an open adoption. My child and spouse were actually in the delivery room when she was born. Her bio mom still has contact whenever she wishes, although she has chosen only to call and visit… she hasn’t ever stayed with her. My kids have always been very respectful of her birth mother’s needs and feelings because they are so grateful for the gift they were given. So I guess that makes me team Cate and Tyler. They gave Brandon and Teresa the most incredible gift and B&T don’t seem to be very appreciative. Carly does seem to be very comfortable with Cate and Tyler, so I don’t think it’s really about protecting her.


  23. This probably won’t be a popular opinion, but I think this is why open adoptions are just setting everyone up for heartache. I think the desire for it is rooted in a good place from all parties involved, but this right here is exactly what you’re risking if you choose to do it. Adoption is already heartwrenching as it is, but to keep the doors open, like, “yeah, so these are your related parents, but we are your parents that raised you” is too much for a kid to deal with. It’s confusing, complicated, and not something that the child chose for themselves. Putting it all on them once they turn 18 is cruel, imo. Cate and Tyler just keep getting worse. If I was Carly, I wouldn’t speak to them until much later in my life. She probably gets more than enough of their circus act just logging onto social media, the poor girl.


  24. My birth parents did the same thing. To my adoptive parent trashed them and called them names etc and guess what I did not want nothing to do with my birth parents before that . Even though it’s open you gave up your parental rights you may have birthed her and she may have your blood but you did not raise her you wanted her to have a good life. They may be required to send you updates or send pictures at the willing but when you signed those documentation she became their daughter legally and no longer yours. And if you want to have any good chance of having a relationship you need to show you respect them and stop trashing them because it’s gonna make things worse for you and she’s not gonna wants be around yall because at the end of the day yall made the decision and she’s no longer yours and so be respectful to the family and mother and father she knows


  25. Cate, you are NOT Carly’s mother. And coming for her REAL momma online is the worst thing you could have done. Shockingly kids raised in happy, functioning homes don’t like it when people attack their PARENTS. Yet again, those parents are NOT YOU AND TYLER. My dad was raised in an open adoption over 60 years ago. He was in contact with his birth mother until the day she died. In fact, my whole family was in the hospice center when she passed away and we mourned her. You want to know why? Because his birth mother RESPECTED my grandparents and understood that she wasn’t my dad’s mom after the adoption. But she was still treated like a treasured auntie. You threw any chance of that kind of relationship away a long time ago and just put the last nail in the coffin with this post. You are trash.


  26. Cate needs to calm the f down. Carly will see what she is saying about her parents. She may NOT want to see Cate and Ty!


  27. They should be ashamed of the way they are treating Carly’s parents. They claim to love her so much but their behavior shows otherwise. What have they accomplished with their lives? Do they remember all the promises THEY made to Brandon and Teresa? How they were going to go to college and better themselves and do this, that and the next thing to make B & T proud. But instead they ended up as annoying, childish losers that make B & T & C’s lives a living hell! They don’t deserve any kindness and grace on the part of B & T. Leave Carly alone. You don’t realize the choices you are asking the child to make. Grow the fuck up both of you. Take a step back and re-evaluate your behavior. Or get a therapy horse to help you do that. It you were my birth parents I’d run for the fucking hills to get away from such childish, immature behavior that you can’t seem to outgrow. We see another April and Butch in the making. 🙄


  28. Time and time again Cate and Tyler you show us who you are!! We believe you and you do not have to keep reminding us!! You do not respect yourselves, please show some respect for Brandon and Teresa, their family, and especially Carly. Carly will know all about about everything you have done, posted and recorded of your lives and she will make her own decisions!!


  29. Brandon and Teresa probably have a legitimate case to sue Catelynn and Tyler for the amount of online shit they talk and have them legally bound to stop. I worry about Brandon, Teresa, and Carly with how some of these crazy fans are. That said, I cannot wait for Carly to turn eighteen and completely cut contact. We all would if we were in her shoes. No matter what Tyler claims, we know they’re both going to have a massive online meltdown about it and blame everybody but themselves.

    Doesn’t Carly have a younger brother that’s also adopted? I bet if that one is also open, and the birth mother isn’t like these two idiots, that there’s a whole different dynamic and way better relationship.


  30. Lazy trash needs to shut up hopefully Carly stays as far away from these two as possible it’s called karma


  31. Good job alienating the people that raise the kid you couldn’t even feed, Cate! It’s only your fault (and Tyler’s) that you don’t see Carly, exposing his junk all over social media and causing drama. YOU ARE EMBARRASSING CARLY!! Exposing her business for everybody to see time and time again. You have no respect for boundaries and you never had.
    Worry about the 3 children in your care, Carly is just fine with her parents


  32. If anything, this idiotic post Cate made just shows the type of shit-tastic fools they are.

    Cate- YOU ARE NOT CARLY’S MOTHER. Fucking learn that. Giving birth to a child means NOTHING except just that. You popped out a kid. Good for you.

    The adoption could’ve been handled better but all this bullshit Cate is spewing of ‘I didn’t know’ bitch you sure had a solid understanding of it bc it’s been your storyline since you got on MTV. Backpedal elsewhere.

    B&T have EVERY. SINGLE. RIGHT. to shut you both of of Carly’s life. All you & your husband do is bitch, moan, do questionable shit constantly. You have, what, 3-4 other kids to fuck up? Go focus on that. You have zero control over Carly/B&T and it drives you absolutely batshit crazy. Get a life. Carly will find you IF she wants to when she turns 18. And spoiler alert- pretty sure she wants absolutely nothing to do with you. Swallow that pill down.


  33. I’m sure B and T stopped this year’s visit with C & T was after Tyler’s Only Fans picture was revealed and I don’t blame them. Cate and Tyler have always come off thinking they know it all because they were raised by addicted. They don’t have a clue on surviving in the real world. Just wait when those TM checks stop coming. These two are clueless and are in for a rude awakening. I have no doubt B and T have done an amazing job raising Carly.


  34. Protecting their daughter from cate and Tyler’s whiter trash bs isn’t being difficult. B & T and Carly’s parents. Her REAL parents. It’s delusional to think Carly is going to up and switch sides the second she turns 18 to the people who constantly ignore her parents boundaries and talk shit about them online. If I was in B & T’s position I would do whatever I could to keep Carly away from The Trailer Trash Troupe


  35. They really forget that they bowled over B and T’s boundaries over and over again. Carly won’t thank Cate and Tyler for publicly disrespecting her parents all the time. Those are her parents and she loves them. I don’t blame B and T for wanting to protect her from that dysfunction.


    1. And Brandon and Teresa forget they wouldn’t even have a daughter if it wasn’t for Catelynn and Tyler.

      You also have no idea how Carly feels about any of this. She may resent that her adoptive parents don’t foster a relationship with her biological parents. None of us know, but time will tell.


      1. No, there is an abundance of children needing adopted.
        Carly was not the only child up for adoption in Michigan at this time.

        B&T don’t need to bend the knee to these 2 very immature and delusional ppl.
        They’ve given them an inch. They’ve taken miles. C&T have disrespected B&T time and again over the past 15 years, they’ve given enough.
        3 more years and Carly has her own will and the cold slap of reality will finally hit Cate.

        Or it won’t. She still won’t see that SHE’S the problem here.


        1. Obviously they did or they wouldn’t have agreed to a semi open adoption. They shouldn’t have agreed to something they wouldn’t do.

          They (along with Dawn) bulldozed two children into giving up their child. Go back and watch their 16 and Pregnant. They were predators.


          1. Brandon and Teresa do not legally, ethically, or even morally owe Cate or Tyler a damn thing.


          2. No.

            Yeah we’re not gonna blame B&T for the adoption. No we’re not.

            Nice try though.


          3. The adoption was only open thru the age of 5. After this, it’s her parents discretion.


          4. Lg… You keep commenting that the adoption is only open until the child turns five. Please share your source, because I have never heard of such a thing! My granddaughter joined our family through open adoption and is certainly not the case. She is a teenager now and her birth mother can still call, visit, etc. There was never any time limit imposed.


          5. And they didn’t know c&t were gonna carry on being on tv. If they’d just led normal lives not having everything out there in public then maybe they would’ve been more involved. They refused to respect boundaries and posted photos etc that b&t didn’t want.


        2. *Children*, as in “up to 18”. But B&T were in the market for a newborn.

          There have been fewer newborns to adopt than applications to adopt them for decades now. Remember how Cate and Tyler brought home literal binders made by couples hoping to be picked by a potential birth mother?


        1. I’m neither Cate nor Tyler. I’m actually not even a big fan of theirs. However, they were victims in this situation. They were victimized by Brandon and Teresa AND most definitely by Dawn.

          They were children that were pushed to make a decision and they were made promises for that decision.

          Do some research on the adoption company they used.


          1. Would you have preferred April & Butch to raise Carly?! Yeah, no. Adoption was the best thing these two ding dongs could have done for her


    1. It is a sign of fetal alcohol syndrome. I’d stop bulking up if I were tyler and figure appropriate head to body ratio.


    2. Ok that’s just rude. I know you may not agree what is going on but talking about a person’s weight is rude. Two wrongs never make a right. So is calling people white trash or trailer trash. We can calling people’s bad behavior with respect.

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