Kail Lowry Launches Podcast With Formerly Estranged Friend Becky Hayter a Day After She & Vee Torres End ‘Baby Mamas No Drama’ Podcast Following Apparent Feud

“Good luck, Becky…you’re gonna need it!”

One day after announcing that her and Vee TorresBaby Mamas No Drama podcast was ending after four years, Kail Lowry revealed that she’s launching a new podcast with another familiar face from Teen Mom 2– her formerly estranged friend Becky Hayter. 

After nearly a month of Kail and Vee– the wife of Kail’s first baby daddy, Jo Riverarecording solo episodes of ‘BMND’ (sometimes joined by a friend), Kail and Vee released a final episode of their podcast this week, confirming to their listeners that it was “the end of an era.”

“THANK GOD!” – Jo, upon hearing this news…probably.

While the pair had been hosting the podcast together since September 2020– save for a few weeks in June 2021, during which both hosts admitted they were having some issues and would be recording separately for the moment– fans had been speculating in recent weeks that something was amiss between the “baby mamas,” with some even taking to social media demanding that Vee and Kail tell them what was going on with the podcast and their relationship. 

In addition to releasing the final episode of ‘BMND’– which featured both Kail and Vee, albeit separately– the hosts released respective statements on social media giving listeners a (somewhat vague) explanation behind their decision to end the podcast. 

Kail later took to the comment section on the TeenMom Shaderoom Facebook page insisting that Jo had “absolutely nothing to do with the decision” to end ‘BMND,’ before going on to claim that, despite what some fans speculated after reading her statement, Vee doesn’t have any “dirt” on her.

“ … actually, it’s the other way around,” Kail revealed. 

Kail didn’t expound on the alleged “dirt” she has on Vee, despite both she and Vee mentioning the importance of transparency in their respective statements this week. 

After Vee and Kail confirmed the end of ‘BMND,’ many fans also began to speculate that Kail had included the “see you next Tuesday” sign-off in her post as a way to throw shade at Vee by (not very subtly) calling her former co-host a “c*nt.” However, Kail went on to deny the allegation, claiming she was actually referring to “the new show launching next Tuesday.”

The following day, a trailer for Kail’s latest project was released on the ‘BMND’ podcast page, in which she and her former bestie Becky welcomed listeners to their new podcast, Karma & Chaos, which officially drops next Tuesday. 

“ … We’ll share stories about rekindling friendships, losing loved ones, and life in our 30s, but truly nothing is off limits,” Kail says in the trailer. 

“We’re keeping it real, raw and maybe a little bit too chaotic,” Becky continues, to which Kail adds, “Maybe a lot of bit chaotic. So sit back, get comfortable– or drive to work, it doesn’t matter. You’re gonna laugh with us, you’re gonna cry with us, we’re gonna figure all this s**t out together.”  

Longtime fans of ‘Teen Mom 2’ may remember Becky appearing on the show years ago as one of Kail’s close friends; however, the pair’s friendship ended after a feud and they only recently began speaking again. Kail documented her and Becky’s “road to redemption” on an episode of her Barely Famous podcast earlier this month, during which the former friends revealed they hadn’t spoken to each other in five years.  

Kail and Becky’s “road to redemption” also included one of Kail’s podcast tour events in Philadelphia this month, where Becky joined Kail on stage as co-host. 

“Who would have thought it’s been five years since we last spoke?” Becky shared on Instagram following the event. “Damn, it feels so good to be back. I just want to thank everyone for welcoming me back with open arms– I had the time of my life last night co hosting on @kaillowry podcast tour. 

“Kail, I’m so grateful for the personal growth we’ve both experienced that allowed us to reconnect,” she continued. “I can’t wait for all the fun that’s still to come. I appreciate you so much! ❤️” 

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(Photos: Instagram) 

13 Responses


  1. Petty Betty strikes again. She manages to blow up every relationship or friendship she has. Vee kept her post above board, but Kail showed herself, as usual.


  2. Kail, we know what you were doing with that cryptic message. Before even coming to the comments, I knew that was a direct jab at Vee. Keep it classy, Kail. 😒😂


  3. I would never want to be business partners with Kail (or Farrah), they will blow up all financial relationships because of petty bs. Not a smart way to live your life.


  4. I’m in my mid to early to late 40’s and I have never had a feud with anyone. Why does this girl feud with everyone?


  5. Typical day in TM land.
    ✅Kail burned a bridge
    ✅Rhine being a useless POS to some of his kids
    ✅Too much to unpack with Janelle


  6. Who asked for this?
    Seriously.

    Ok you still hate Vee after all these years.
    We get it.

    Does the latest kept man not contribute at all to the household?
    How does she spend any time with any of the kids when she spend hours a day droning on about herself and her problems she’s caused herself?


    1. Kail is such a messy nasty individual. She is the common denominator of ALL her failed relationships/friendships.

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