Catelynn Lowell and her husband Tyler Baltierra have been very outspoken since being cut off from their biological daughter, Carly, and, over the weekend the Teen Mom stars took to social media to shed new light on their ongoing battle with Carly’s parents, Brandon and Teresa Davis, with Cate stating that she believes Carly wants to maintain a relationship with her and Tyler, but Brandon and Teresa are against it.
As The Ashley previously reported, Catelynn announced last year that Carly’s parents had blocked her, cutting off communication between them and the 15-year-old. Cate and Tyler took to social media to discuss the situation at length, and to blast the concept of adoption in general. Earlier this month, Catelynn stated in an interview that Brandon and Teresa have since asked her to stop sending gifts and items to their home, calling Cate’s gift-giving “inappropriate” and “uncalled for.”
Over the weekend, Catelynn told her 4 million Instagram followers that she thinks it’s Brandon and Teresa— and not Carly— who wanted to kick her and Tyler out of their lives.
“Before communication was cut, I was told Carly was asking her parents, ‘Why can’t we get together more?’ ‘Why can’t we get together with them for the holidays?’ ‘They would fly here to come see me.’ So in my heart, I don’t feel it’s her wanting this,” Catelynn wrote. “If B&T would tell me it’s in fact Carly not wanting contact, then I would respect that with all of me!”
Catelynn and Tyler have both stated that Carly’s parents have refused to give them a reason for the relationship being severed. Catelynn insisted over the weekend that she would respect Carly’s wishes, if she was told that the 15-year-old didn’t want to associate them anymore.
“And if her mom and dad called and said it’s what Carly wants, I would be silent. Y’all wouldn’t hear a thing from me again about the situation!” Cate wrote. “Because at the end of the day she is what is most important.”
On the most-recent episode of Teen Mom: The Next Chapter, Ty and Cate discussed cutting Carly’s parents cutting off communication with them. The couple turned to Dawn, the adoption counselor who helped them navigate Carly’s adoption in 2009, for help. When Dawn suggested that Catelynn and Tyler give it a rest in regard to their quest to contact and/or get messages to Carly, Catelynn stated that she refused to back down.
On Friday, though, Tyler posted to Instagram that he and Catelynn have agreed to “pause” a bit on trying to get in contact with Carly.
“Adoption Update: We have taken Dawns advice & have since stopped sending gifts & updates,” he wrote. “All we can do now is continue to share our perspective, experience & truth as birthparents. All we can do now is continue to advocate for the minority group of adoptees.
Tyler added that he and Catelynn were shocked when they read over their file from the adoption, which he said they only recently received in its entirety.
Brandon and Teresa have never publicly responded to Catelynn and Tyler’s posts and claims made online and on the show.
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They have been talking about this for 16 years. They knew 10 years ago, when Dawn sat them down, what they signed.
I do think they should have an advocate since they were minors just to fully explain everything. But I really don’t think it would have changed anything because back then they really didn’t want contact outside of one visit and pictures. They really didn’t want to raise Carly, they were in no position and they know it.
They have let Carly know and B&T know and the world know they want to talk to Carly. Are they so desperate to get that 16-year-old Carly for the 16 year anniversary, they don’t care how much it hurts her, her parents, their children!?!!?
Like enough… Carly is 15/16. She is able to reach out if she wanted to. She’s a kid of the modern age. If she wanted to she would. If at the extreme end she really can’t… well that was a decision made by her parents who thought this was the best choice for her whatever the reason.
So at this point it’s two years, just wait till two years till she’s 18, and then you’ll get the final answer, but this is only hurting Carly this weird media spectacle about how she won’t respond and how B&T won’t respond is only hurting Carly is not helping anyone.
Also, a lot of those stats about kids who are adopted and don’t have a relationship with birth parents. Are not Carly’s situation. Carly has met C&T multiple times, she knows who they are, why they placed her. Now she does have the extra hurdle of they stayed together and had more kids but didn’t keep her, but even that, watch the first two seasons of TM and you understand very quickly why that would have been a terrible idea. Some people just don’t want a relationship with their birth parents.
“We were told” by who??? How would they have been told what Carly said? They apparently did not hear directly from Carly and the only other people who could know that are Brandon, Theresa, or Dawn.
It does not matter what Cate feels Carly wants. She is not their child. Period. Carly’s parents get to decide what is in her best interest. Cate and Tyler’s inability to understand that speaks to their dysfunctional understanding of what parenting even is or how relationships work. And the reality is that if Carly wanted to contact Cate and Tyler, she knows exactly where to find them. She’s not a little girl. A determined teen is going to find a way.
They are driving a permanent wedge, but at least they’re getting money and attention. That’s apparently what they really want.
“We were told” by who??? How would they have been told what Carly said? They apparently did not hear directly from Carly and the only other people who could know that are Brandon, Theresa, or Dawn.
Probably some kids she goes to school with thinking it’s funny to cause trouble. Like, oh I’m in Carly class, here’s a picture, she wants to talk keep reaching out. hahah. C&T are so social stunned they are like oh, okay, yeah she wants to talk…
I actually suspect it’s not even that. They probably heard from other totally unrelated adoptees that they would have loved to get together for visits and holidays. They seem to have really latched on to “adoptees’ trauma” as if that means they know how Carly feels.
So you’re telling me that C & T didn’t look at the entire adoption until recently? That is placing blame on Dawn as a counselor/ coach in my opinion. Quit playing the victim in this. Carly is the victim in this whole mess that you 2 started. Grow up and start reading legal documents all the way through. Their elevator clearly does not go all the way up.
No they did. Multiple times. We even have it on camera a number of times that they re-read what C&T signed. They just want to re-write history.
I do think that as minors, they should have been given to some type of legal counsel or advocate. But I don’t think it would have changed anything because C&T didn’t want more than that from B&T.
Butch and April took C&T to court off camera at the time of Carly’s adoption and tried to argue that they C&T shouldn’t sign anything because they want to raise Carly.
Cate was assigned a guardian ad litem by the courts as a result.
The judge took one look at those two tweekers and just was like nope. C&T can place her adoption if they want. You are in no position to raise her.
The only reason these two decides to “back down” is because they were informed that if they don’t an RO can be put into place quite easily. They already know Carly was the one who cut contact, Cate was bitching about it in a few of the interviews. It was her reason for contacting B&T directly because “Carly stopped communicating with us and now has us blocked”. Cate is the one who made up what she *thinks* Carly was saying about wanting to spend time with them, Carly never actually asked that nor were C&T ever told that. They were told the exact opposite, that Carly had them blocked, did not want to continue communication and that it was her choice. That made Cate go off the deep end, it’s in some of her “interviews”.
The whole email thing is beyond unhinged and just shows exactly why these two shouldn’t be in her life, whatsoever, unless SHE later decides it’s okay (which is doubtful at this point). They are showing a complete disregard for her, her opinions, her feelings, her experience and even their other three children. They clearly do not give one tiny little shit about anything outside of what they want and haven’t given any of it a moment’s thought since the day they gave her up. The me me me and us us us show is beyond ridiculous at this point and has crossed over into scary stalker and dangerous territory. It’s no wonder Carly cut contact.
I’ve recently done a 16 and pregnant rewatch. Before the adoption was even finalised Cate and Ty were talking about “maybe we can have her for weeks over the summer”
shows how ill informed and ill prepared they were with such an enormous decision!
Oh please! They were some of the most mature and rational 16 year olds. For petes sake. People with this crap line of “they didn’t know what they were doing” just enable their antics. They knew what they were doing. They made a choice and now no matter how they FeEL, they need to shut up and accept reality. This girl is a complete stranger to them. Then gave her away many many years ago, saw her maybe once a year for the first five years, she is as much of a stranger to them as they are to her. They didn’t raise her with their time or money or put any emotional effort into her. They’re just literal brats having a temper tantrum.
They were informed correctly and were more mature at 16 than now. They knew back then they weren’t suited to raise a kid in their environment of junkies and violence and gave Carly a normal life. They should have called it a day.
Catelynn is completely unhinged. Brandon and Theresa need a restraining order against these two entitled psychos that think they can walk all over Carly’s parents to do as they please.
“minority group of adoptees”
Oh, so that’s what it’s about. Tyler wants to be a minority and call himself surpressed and a victim. He can’t say he is black and doesn’t want to be gay or “trans” so he is trying to make adoption be a minority group.
Adoptees are absolutely a minority group. It’s insane how many “experts” on adoption there are when in reality the most experienced & affected one is the adoptee. The actual subject of the contract to purchase a child. We are the only ones in the mix with NO RIGHTS to our own info and no means to void a contract even in middle age. But it’s nice to hear all the experts who know someone who adopted 🤮 there’s a reason most grown adoptees do share experience w non adoptees bc y’all just know it all 🙄 no need to group or compare us with trans or other situations who actually have access to their real birth cert and genetic mirroring.
Your comment is completely irrelevant. None of this is about fEeLiNgS. They legally gave Carly to another couple. It was a legally binding decision. Not a one single person has to be an adoptee to understand what went on. Not a single person has to have given a child away to understand what’s gone on. C&T are completely unhinged clowns who want full control. It has NOTHING to do with their fEeLiNgS. 🙄🙄🙄
People who have been adopted are, absolutely, the most important person involved in any adoption. There is zero question to that, whatsoever. They also have a history of being the least involved, or, as you stated, the least likely to have many, if any, rights. However, in recent decades (and I do mean decades, because things have been changing, for the better, for a very, very long time now) those rights available to adoptees have also changed. Many states, and some other areas around the world, have, thankfully, changed for the better and started to ensure adoptees have more rights than ever before. As long as the information is out there, it is available to adoptees. One of the main problems is that in some cases, the information just isn’t available, for various reasons. I have a couple adult children who have this same problem. They too have no access to their genetic information, there is no real birth certificate in one case.
But none of that has anything at all to do with Tyler who is *not* an adoptee, nor is he a minority, and can’t, or shouldn’t, speak on it because he isn’t one. He can’t speak for Carly, or any other adoptee, any more than anyone else can. I can share the experiences my adopted children have had, as I understand them, but I can’t speak for them about how they understand them. Therein lies the difference between these two chuckleheads and most others who give children up for adoption. Most people don’t try to speak FOR the children they’ve given up. These two can’t seem to stop doing so, while foisting their own trauma and various life issues on the shoulders of everyone around them, including actual, literal, children.
What Cate and Ty really don’t seem to understand is that Carly was raised in a completely different environment from them. She most likely goes to school with other middle class kids, that have never stepped foot in a trailer park. It has to be quite embarrassing to Carly that she has a Butch and an April in her bloodline. It’s time for them to realize that she is likely trying to distance herself from their circus. Cate and Ty really need to quit with the psychobabble, get out of their therapy bubble, and make something of themselves outside of Carly and the whole TM universe.
How can you “feel” anything?! You DON’T know Carly!
If she wanted to contact you she would find a way to do so.
Especially at damn near 16. She is probably very bonded to her mom and dad at home and relatives there. From what Tyler (he said on his live) said she is involved in violin like Teresa. Sounds like those two have a bond. She sounds like she is thriving. If she was not thriving I would say otherwise but it sounds like she is. I know this is about filming for MTV not Carly or even their three children. If they were smart they would not tell the younger two about any of this. They do not need to know and it would just cause them anxiety like it is Nova and probably Carly.
“If B&T would tell me it’s in fact Carly not wanting contact, then I would respect that with all of me!”
Carly is a MINOR and HER PARENTS have said they do not want you contacting THEIR CHILD. How these two are incapable of understanding this is completely beyond comprehension. It doesn’t really matter what Carly wants right now because she’s a kid and if her parents said no, it’s no. Again, this all goes back to cate and ty not giving a flying fk about consent and that’s a huge problem.
There is no way Carly did not go to her mom and dad and tell them this is all making her uncomfortable. Because Carly is near 18 in a few years they are trying to ger her on board with some reunion show and Brandon and Teresa know this. They are probably getting a ton of pressure from MTV which is why all this is happening. Don’t forget B&T have jobs and another child they have to protect. They can’t have all this garbage going on. Why they have not gotten an attorney and filed something in court is beyond me. Not just restraining order. Order of protection is what they need. It really is out of control. MTV should just change its name to train wreck TV.
I don’t normally comment but everytime I see more and more of this it really irks me! My goodness. What a mess!
I feel so bad for Carly and her parents. The ones who have raised her. Not the ones who legally put her up for adoption. All of this was above board and legal. I agree, the birth parents’ behavior IS inappropriate. No doubt about it. None of this ever should have happened. I too agree that legal assistance is needed on the part of Carly and her parents. They don’t owe the birth parents any explanation. None. And all of this repeatedly spewed across social media, TV, etc. is just so nuts, and flat out terrifying. Stalking, threats, insinuations, invasion of privacy LIES, what is their problem? They have 3 other kids, they need to be raising THEM. Not terrorizing the child THEY put up for adoption and her parents. I will say it. Get a lawyer and shut them down! It is way past time.
I agree. The adoption was above board. They made sure of that because there were some bad contested cases in the 1990’s – early 2000’s where the adopted parents had to surrender the child as a toddler and they fixed that. No way did any agency want to go through that again. So they did clean alot up.
Catelynn and Tyler don’t WANT to believe cutting off contact could be coming from Carly. I have a feeling if Carly were to somehow reach out and say “Leave me alone”, they would still find an excuse to keep harassing Carly and her parents. And the thing is… even if f it is just Brandon and Teresa behind blocking C&T…. that is their right as Carly’s parents.
And the email address… how much does anyone want to bet it’s filled with nothing but bashing Brandon and Teresa to Carly?
They’d say she is still in the “adoptive fog”. They seem like they are talking to these radical anti adoption cps groups on facebook. Some of those groups and people on there are scary. Like set themselves on fire in front of the courthouse scary. They lost their kids for damn good reason.
They are exhausting. The way that C & T have tried to bully B & T using their TV show and social media is quite frankly disgusting. They caused this with their behavior.
I think Carly does want this. You can’t tell me that Carly doesn’t have C & T’s contact information. She is a teenager. If she wanted to contact them and her parents not know then she would go to a friend’s house and use their cell phone or go in the bathroom at school and use someone’s cell phone. B & T are not with her 24/7 monitoring whether she contacts them or not.
B & T owe them NOTHING at this point. They could unblock C & T right now and text them and say ‘We are following Carly’s wishes and she doesn’t want to see you.” And C & T would go online and on Teen Mom and say that they don’t believe it and they feel it is B & T not wanting contact because of their supposed insecurities of C & T. (At least that’s what Ty believes)
I’m beginning to wonder if they aren’t just using this for a Teen Mom storyline. We have seen the clickbait posted by Cate that says “Why we decided to give Nova up” then you click on it and it is completely unrelated. Then they face backlash and Cate will go online and say someone else runs her account so the clickbait didn’t technically come from her.
At this point they must think we are all suckers with a short attention span and no memory of all of this shit we have watched first hand.
When Catelynn was a minor and pregnant her own mom said no contact for both the couple and the agency, but they ignored her. So they have a lot of nerve thinking they are in charge of anything. Bethany did not educate the adoptive couple on adoption. This was not a couple meant to adoption a baby in the 21st century. Nothing about how it was set up made sense for the time. For Bethany it was about a fee and which birth mom they could manipulate. Why could B&T adopt Catelynn’s baby when she was a minor and her mom said no to the adoption and no to them even talking to Catelynn and no to the agency being in contact with the girl?
I don’t think Carly will leave the house and run to her birth parents on her birthday. I am sure she knows they will make her choose.
Who’s bethany??
It’s the name of the adoption agency.
Your ability to be as unhinged as these two, while taking great leaps of ridiculousness is absolutely astounding. If it were in the Olympics, you’d win gold!
The reason a minor can give a child up for adoption, without consulting their own actual parent is because people giving children up for adoption have these things we call rights. Her own parents were unfit, and even admitted themselves countless times that they were unfit parents. Why on earth do you think a person’s parent should get any say, whatsoever, in whether or not they keep the child? Why do you think that parent, of a pregnant female, should have rights that supersede the rights of a female to NOT have to be a parent? Do you think she should also have a say in whether or not Cate had medical treatment? If she had chosen abortion should April have a say? Where the hell do you get the audacity to assume April’s opinion should mean more than the actual person carrying and then choosing a new life, for the baby she created? In what world does that actually make sense?
You do know children still have rights in the United States, correct? I mean, you understand that they are people and sometimes they have parents who don’t know what’s best, don’t do what’s best, and in fact are horrible people (like April). Or do you live in some weird bubble the rest of us can’t see?
There are also safe surrender babies in every state where any parent can surrender to a fire station, whatever, no questions asked. They were having a rash of babies left in garbage cans, where they did not survive and thus the govt created this for someone who may be in crisis and considering that.
It doesn’t matter what Cate and Ty believe about what Carly wants. B&T are Carly’s parents and they are doing what they believe is best for their daughter. If Nova wanted something that Cate and Ty felt was not the best choice, would they just let her do whatever she wanted? Probably not, but they can’t seem to see past their own wants to realize that.
Dawn is partially responsible for this because she has been playing both sides for years and kept filling them with false hope.
I notice that. She seems the type of social worker that tells you what you want to hear rather than what you need to hear. I remember when she was scolding Caitlyn and Tyler for “staying in their own camp.” or something like that. When Cait said it was awkward contacting them. And now she said “we need to take a pause.”
STOP! JUST STOP! You have three other children who are going to be adversely affected by your desperate efforts to stay relevant. I can’t wait for those children to start acting out. I’ll bet one of them will be knocked up by 15. These two are generally ignorant, have no marketable skills and exhibit zero work ethic.
If Carly wanted to get in touch with them, she’d find a way. I’m sure she could borrow a friend’s phone to secretly send a message, etc. I’m sure Carly is mortified by their behavior…why wouldn’t she be?! Good grief, they’re an absolute embarrassment.
Ugh part of me feels sad because I remember them reassuring each other that she might come back and live with them someday. She’s their DNA but she’s lived a different life. If she does come around, it’s going to take some time.
At this point B&T need a court order shutting these psychos up about Carly. This is stalking and harassment now. That is not their child. Period. I can’t wait to see their faces when Carly hits 18 and all they hear from her is crickets…or they get a process server at their door with her restraining order.
If I were Carly, I’d change my name and move to an undisclosed location.
These two need trauma therapy.
Cate also went live on TikTok and admitted Tyler is sending their adoption records to content creators. She sounds completely deranged and I hope Brandon and Theresa seek legal protection from these psychopaths.
I’m sure they are very nervous that Carly is not going to want to film when she turns 18. That is what this is all about . Then their gravy train is over. He got the file. They are going to publish that for money I’m sure.
Carly is a child and B&T are her parents. C&T are irrelevant and sickly obsessed. They need actual serious professional help. They said they’d stop if they got an explanation but now it’s just not ‘good enough’ for them.
I’m gonna call bullshit on the fact that if carly didn’t want caitlin and tyler to communicate with her, they would just leave it and be all good with it…
They also need to remember they don’t know carly, so they don’t know what she would or wouldn’t want, so they have no clue if it’sB&T or Carly.. But let’s also keep in mind that somebody is a few hours late to have a visit because somebody else wanted to sit on their house and make a Crap book