Catelynn Lowell and Tyler Baltierra did not hold back during the most-recent episode of their podcast— striking out at the parents of their biological daughter Carly for seemingly saying whatever they needed to say to get the Teen Mom stars to allow them to adopt Carly after her 2009 birth.
During the latest episode of their PodcastOne podcast, Cate & Ty Break It Down!, Catelynn and Tyler spoke out about how Carly’s parents— Brandon and Teresa Davis— were willing to change their initial adoption terms in order to ensure they could adopt Carly.
“I think the whole goal was to get a baby,” Tyler said, adding, “We were kids, listening to the adults around us.”
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As fans know, Carly was born in 2009, and her birth and adoption were featured on Cate’s 16 and Pregnant episode. Last year, Cate and Ty’s relationship with Brandon and Teresa soured to the point of the couple cutting off communication with the ‘Teen Mom’ stars all together. Since being blocked from Carly’s life, Catelynn and Tyler have been very vocal on social media about their unhappiness with Carly’s parents, as well as adoption in general, claiming that it is “literally buying babies.”
Tyler went on to discuss how Brandon and Teresa were initially pursing only closed adoptions, but eventually agreed to an open adoption when Cate and Ty changed their mind from wanting a closed adoption to an open one. According to Tyler, Brandon and Teresa did this to make sure they didn’t lose their chance to adopt Carly.
“If you were an adult, and you knew [what kind of adoption] you wanted, I think your responsibility should have been [to say], ‘This isn’t a good fit for us, we want closed [adoption],'” he said.
“The fact that you shifted your desires to get the baby is selfish to me,” Tyler added. “Because I feel like that automatically shows that you weren’t planning on doing what we agreed upon.”
Tyler also expressed that, in his opinion, Brandon and Teresa took advantage of the fact that he and Catelynn were only teenagers at the time of Carly’s adoption.
“There were four people involved in this [adoption] agreement, and two of them were children and two of them were adults,” Tyler said, adding that he feels Brandon and Teresa should have been honest with them and disclosed that they initially wanted a closed adoption, not an open adoption like he and Catelynn wanted.
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During the podcast episode, creator Jordy Cray asked Ty and Cate if they think ranting about the adoption and Brandon and Teresa on social media will make the situation between the families worse, because Cate and Ty have now involved the public.
“Our main goal for putting stuff out publicly was because if Carly has a chance of being able to see that we never stopped trying, she deserves to know that, in my opinion,” Catelynn said. “Also it’s bringing awareness to everyone who is involved in adoption…also it’s giving a voice for adopted kids. But I can see where you would think that.”
Catelynn also stated that– although Brandon and Teresa won’t tell them if it was them or Carly who wanted to cut communication with Cate and Ty— she firmly believes it wasn’t Carly who asked for it.
“We don’t have anything to lose, and I truly, in my heart of hearts, do not believe that it’s Carly that wants this [separation from us],” Catelynn said.
“For you as a parent to allow your insecurity and this fear to trump the best interest of [Carly] doesn’t make sense to me, and that’s also not what we wanted and [not] what we agreed upon 15 years ago,” Tyler added. “We were always supposed to be a team.”
You can listen to the full episode of Cate & Ty Break It Down! by clicking here!
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OMG! Just STFU Cate and Tyler…You two are the epitomy of selfishness. Could you just try to think of all your kids when pick up your phones and start to post about the adoptive parents of your first born child? Because if you did you might put the phone down and just not post at all. All this public blabber mouthing of Carly’s adoptive parents is totally disgusting. You are hurting Carly…if you care her about her so much, you would shut the F up. If I were them I would put cease and desist PLUS a restraining order on you two. I guess this is what happens when two 30 something’s who only have high school educations and have never held jobs as adults…you have nothing better to do then post online or have a podcast where you bash Carly’s adoptive parents because really, what the hell else do you have to talk about? MTV needs to fire you two…your “storyline” has become a cesspool of bitterness and displaced anger. Go away.
They have put up with more than enough from Tyler and Catelynn. I would lawyer up and get a restraining order at this point and even go for libel after the insane batshit stuff they say about them. Pony Princess and her OnlyMans hubby seriously need to take a break. She shouldn’t have sold her baby if she didn’t want someone else raising it. smdh. She just never stops being crazy and Ty just rolls with it. Just sad. I liked Ty at the beginning and even more when we met Butch but he seems to have sunken to waist level in the mud and just tries not to sink.
She is BI POLAR! It’s why she acts the way she does. They all act that way. Accusatory, dramatic and emotionally unstable. And all those girls have a decent chance of getting it too. It’s VERY hard on families and friends to deal with it and many choose to cut off from the person for their own well being.
I just watched their 16 and pregnant episode.
They had their shit much more together when they were poor, neglected, abused teenagers. Sorry they had to live like that.
The fame and MTV money ruined them. Utterly disgusting humans now.
Cate and Ty have no concept of the fact that B & T are doing what they believe is best for Carly. That’s their job as her parents, who did not sign on to co-parent Carly as a team with Cate and Ty, despite their delusions.
They regret putting Carly up for adoption, the adoptive parents seem fake as well but Carly looks happy and that’s all that matters.
Tyler is
cate knows. It’s only a matter of time. You heard it here first
Fire these two
. They do not deserve a platform.
First, for two people who claim that they could write a book about trauma, really need to take a long hard look at themselves and take a big step back discussing in a public forum about a trauma they have never experienced. They can never fully understand the emotional, physical and financial journey infertility takes you on and I am really, really tired of them both acting like this is the root of all of reasons that B & T have decided to step back from the relationship. Stop. It. Now.
Second, this was not a clear cut process where everyone was given time and to be clear about what all parties wanted from this relationship. If you go back to 16 and pregnant, C & T didn’t even know if they wanted to see and hold her after Catelynn give birth at first. It was why Tyler was shielding Catelynn from seeing the baby. There was a conversation regarding “Do you think you have the strength?” to hold her. Also, Catelynn and Tyler made the decision to expand the openness of the adoption real time during their time with Carly at the hospital. In their book, they say they requested changes to the agreement. The book says they said to Dawn “Break out the eraser. We want to change this agreement.” This was a very fluid situation and everyone was doing their best in a heightened emotional situation. Based on what B&T said, I think they did want a relationship with them, but what that looked like was not the same for everyone.
Last, why do we know about any of this? Why continue to make visits with Carly a storyline at all? If this hadn’t continued out in public, I really believe this would be a different situation.
It’s such a shame that Cate and Ty’s only source of income was based on “being the parents who placed a baby in an “open” adoption, and then talking about and filming EVERYTHING surrounding that child and the adoption.”
I feel like MTV and Teen Mom is what really ruined the relationship they had with Brandon and Theresa. C and T’s “storyline” was “we gave Carly up for adoption and we now live for the once a year visit we get with her… and we SUPER NEED IT TO BE FILMED….bc our livelihood is connected to exploiting this adoption.”
They likely would’ve had a much better relationship with B and T, and thus, Carly, if they weren’t on MTV using Carly as their main story line. Of course B and T don’t want their kid to be the storyline on a network trash-television show….and of course they’ve cut contact after years of having THEIR child exploited for some dying, MTV show’s ratings!
And as we learned before…even when they agreed to the annual meet ups, where still photos were posted on the show, after the fact….. they were barely being compensated for their child’s image to be used on some of the most highly-watched episodes on a network TV show. They were basically acting in good faith, as open adoption parents might do, to facilitate visits between their child and her birth parents….and those birth parents were coming with a camera crew every time and insisting that meetings MUST include some video or still photo shots of them with Carly!
I would bet $1M that the mother of the adopted son that B and T have a successful open adoption with, doesn’t bring a camera crew with her when she sees her son. She also probably have hundreds of thousands social media followers—half of whom are haters trying to make her life hell—to see any posts she might make of her visits with her son….
The irony of them calling anyone selfish…
Anyway at least they proved my prediction of the podcast content correct!!!
Ty didn’t even want the baby, he told Caitlyn if she kept the baby then he would be gone.
So Tyler had a fkn check to act like this now.
I remember this as well. She adopted the baby out to keep him. I’m sure if I’ve seen the episode, they have too.
Also, the tattoos of the baby feet. They told the artist “yeah we get to see the baby whenever”, which kind of impressed the artist, as if B&T were just babysitting until they were ready to take Carly back. Just holding their spot for them. Smh.
I remember these 2 distinct scenes happening.
Honestly, I think this is the root issue. All
of their issues can be traced back to this. Catelynn and Tyler wanted an open adoption and wanted to maintain contact. Brandon and Teresa wanted a closed adoption and just wanted a family of their own. Instead they ended up with a semi-open adoption which didn’t make anyone happy. Because Brandon and Teresa were the adults and the adopters in this situation, I do think it is mostly on them and they should have chosen someone else.
There would have been no adoptive couple who would have put up with Cate and Tyler. That is the root of the issue. No one would have been able to live up to Tyler and Cate’s demands.
Brandon and Theresa still maintain an open adoption with their son’s bio mother – and that’s according to Tyler. So, the problem is not that they didn’t actually want an open adoption. They have absolutely given far more access to Cate and Tyler than most adoptive parents would.
But, open adoption is not permission to do and say whatever you want without consequences. Not many families are going to be ok with being the center of a reality show storyline for 16 years. Not many families are going to want all of their private issues and conversations discussed on public forums. There would have been no one willing to sign up for that.
There are several couples who enter an open adoption and keep their word to the biological parents. Catelynn and Tyler have a right to talk about their experience with adoption. Full stop. The only time they speak out about Brandon and Teresa is when they aren’t abiding by the adoption agreement. At the end of the day, the only person whose feelings matter is Carly. One day B & T will have to answer to Carly for why they cut off her biological family. They aren’t responsible for what C & T say and do only themselves.
They did keep their word. They allowed access to Carly for years beyond the original agreement of five years. But, to say that they can never pull back no matter what Cate and Tyler do is crazy. Their job is to protect Carly, not Cate and Tyler.
And it’s a fact that Carly’s adoption has been used as the Teen Mom storyline for 15 years. You can pretend that it’s just “talking about their experience” but there are other people involved here and those people matter.
It’s lip service to say that Carly’s feelings matter while simultaneously disregarding her parents’ boundaries. Brandon and Theresa are the ones responsible for choosing what is best for their kid and protecting her feelings.
Cate and Tyler don’t know how Carly feels – Brandon and Theresa do know. So, deferring to what Cate and Tyler think is best is ridiculous.
If Carly wants anything to do with Cate and Tyler at this point, they’re going to have quite a bit to answer for themselves. Namely, why they keep using her name to financially support themselves.
No.
The root issue is C&T, along with Amber, Jenelle, Maci, Rhyne .. they’ve never been told “NO”. None know the meaning of the word.
None have ever heard it in regards to someone else having a boundary.
They can’t hear the word “no”.
When they hear it now, as adults, they don’t know how to react accordingly.
They were all raised terribly. I expect this inability to register the word no has been passed down to their children, too.
Denken diese 2 Hohlköpfe einmal an Ihre anderen Töchter?? Sie müssen doch denken, dass sie nichts wert sind, weil es nur um die große Fremde,,Schwester,, geht.
Ich lebe in Deutschland und mein Schulenglisch reicht nur zum Lesen, sodass ich in Deutsch schreibe.
Ich fand es gut, dass die 2 in dieser Situation, beides Zeenager ohne große Perspektive, ihr Kind in eine liebevolle Familie gegeben haben.
Aber jetzt hören die 2 sich wie Stalker an, die Adoptiveltern müssen die Gerichte anrufen, denn es besteht echte Gefahr für Carly..leider
I think you’re right. Is it sad that they had to place a baby up for adoption? Yes. Were Butch and April insane and horrible people to be around children? Also yes. They do seem to be amping it up the older Carly gets for sure. I would despise my birth parents for acting this way. I seriously doubt that their other girls give a shit about Carly. She’s basically a stranger. I’m not saying that to be cruel. I’m just being honest.
I think Nova has been fed some idealized version of her “big sister” by Catelynn and Tyler sense birth. She probably has an imagined relationship with Carly because her parents talk about her nonstop, but I don’t see it being reciprocal on Carly’s part, at least not to the sisterly level. I’d imagine her thoughts of the Not-Carlys are the same you’d have of distant cousins you see once every few years. Catelynn and Tyler’s behavior will undoubtedly lead to years of emotional issues for the children they kept.
Yes. That’s more than likely true. I didn’t meet my birth father until I was 21. I met my cousins on his side at 22. I remember the first time I met my aunt and she told me she loved me. It actually creeped me out. I just never bonded with any of them. It was just an odd situation.
When Carly turns 18 and does NOT show up on their doorstop, I have a sick feeling they will turn on her too. “We gave you life! You are brainwashed by B&T! Your real sisters are heartbroken!”
Gawd, I hope I’m wrong
I think it’s also important to remember that B & T were also new to this process of adoption. They were figuring it out as they went. As someone who looked into adoption prior to doing IVF, it’s so confusing.
You gave your baby up for adoption. That kid seems to be in a loving situation. Even if you felt there was an agreement in place, the kid is in a much better situation than you could/would have provided. What’s your response? You act like petulant children blasting them on public forums where Carly can read them. I don’t know if their intention is to come across to Carly as aggrieved and that they care, but it falls flat and reeks of immaturity.
You’re doing far more harm than good. Just stop embarrassing yourselves.
Imagine having the GALL to look to adoption for a baby. The outrage! The nerve!!!
….
Tyler and Catelynn seriously think every time they come out with this crap, it’s another “Gotcha!” In proving Brandon and Teresa unfit when all it does is prove why Carly is so much better off having not been raised by Cate and Ty.
And who cares if Brandon and Teresa decided they were willing to go forward with an semi open adoption?
I seriously hope B&T have contacted a lawyer at this point.
Geez, they are defecting once again. It is always someone’s else fault. And to say they were just teens, blows my mind. They had a counselor who guided them through the process so I call BS on that.. More than likely Carly has already witnessed all these crazy theories and if she is smart, she will not go near them since they have done nothing but target HER PARENTS. Yes, I said HER PARENTS, because B & T are her parent now. Grow up and do better for you other kids.
C&T need to pull back and go to PRIVATE counseling before they do irreparable damage to their relationship with 1) their daughters at home and 2) Carly. There is too much displaced anger and they are just feedling each other. They need a neutral third party to help them.
I am guessing that they are realizing that b/c of their family life at the time they could not raise their child. And despite being told something to the contrary, they had it in their heads how their relationship with Carly would be. And when it didn’t go/continue as THEY wanted…they didn’t have the emotional maturity to handle it because they never coped with giving their child up for adoption. And b/c they are on TV, everybody weighs in Ilike me, lol) and that doesn’t help. Shouldn’t the adoption agency help with some kind of intervention? Then again…if they don’t WANT help I guess an intervention may not be effective. This is just a bad situation.
Imagine Carly’s life had they kept her and not gotten Teen Mom, there were lots of 16&Pregnant that didn’t get that Teen Mom money. They were chosen because of the adoption.
they’re in for a rude awakening when their daughters they’re supposed to actually be raising go to therapy and bring up all the negative emotions this carly stuff has brought them
Imagine this being the entire focus of your whole life?
When you have 3 daughters at home…?
But if they listen to the adults in their life during this time they would have carly with them, she would have never been put up for an adoption if the adults around them had any say
they would not have been good parents at that time
If they listened to the adults, they would have kept Carly and they would never have appear on MTV (they chose them because of the adoption, nothing more). They would be poor, living in a trailer park and probably wouldn’t be together today. Carly would be miserable living with addicts like April and Butch.
Tyler’s mom was 100% pushing for adoption. She was the only stable adult in their life and the only one who could have helped them.
If I recall, she was not a fan of the open adoption. And she was right.
Their ongoing need to use Carly to make a quick buck is revolting. Exploiting your own kids is gross enough. Exploiting someone else’s child is beyond twisted.
THIS!!!! 100% this!!
I swear, it’s like they completely forgot that we watched this all play out from the beginning. You can’t rewrite history when it was all shown on TV.
Yeah, getting a baby is the goal of an adoption. I do think they should have had more guidance, since yes, they were kids. Dawn and the adoption agency dont count, since they have a vested interest. Do I think the adoption agency took advantage of them? Probably. (I mean, why TF does it cost 30k to adopt a kid through a private adoption agency? Where is that money going?)It’s normal to feel anger and devastation after something like that, but that’s what intensive therapy is for. You can’t control most of what happens to you as a kid, but it’s your responsibility to pick up the pieces as an adult, even if you were dealt a completely unfair hand in life (which both of them were). It’s not Brandon and Theresa’s fault. Get therapy, be honest with yourself, and focus on the kids you have in your care.
Yeah, I think it’s fair to say that their own parents failed them. Butch and April were/are trainwrecks. I’m not sure why they don’t hold Tyler’s mom accountable for not providing guidance when she was the only semi-functional parent. And Cate’s dad was totally MIA during the whole thing. Those were the adults who owed Cate and Tyler guidance. They should have been there to help them make good decisions and understand the contract.
It’s not Brandon and Theresa’s fault that Cate and Tyler put the baby up for adoption or that their parents sucked. They lived up to the contract and beyond, so this isn’t on them.
DUH their goal was to get a baby. That’s LITERALLY why people adopt??? Dumbass
Yes, and Tyler & Cate wanted to get rid of a baby. Everybody got what they wanted. T&C are simply regretting their decisions and are raging at easy targets instead of getting therapy for their grief, remorse and emotional immaturity. They aren’t focusing on their 3 little girls, showing them how a mature, responsible adult functions and healthily comports themselves in all types of situations.
A big part of why they’re hyper-focused on Carly and her parents is because she is their only way to have any income. MTV is only interested in their adoption story. No contact with Brandon, Teresa and Carley, means no easy and huge payday. They might even need to *gasp* get off their lazy butts and get real jobs. They’ll hurt anyone for any reason in order to avoid actually adulting.
Also I am dumbfounded that MTV thinks this is all ok. That it’s just fun entertainment. It’s not. There are children involved. These parents have never grown up. They are just enabled by MTV. I would really love to hear their rationale for continuing this. It’s so sad and out of control yet it keeps going.
Yes there were four people in this adoption agreement. Two adults, two children. Nothing has changed. Still 2 adults and 2 children. B & T did NOT take advantage of them. C & T had a baby they didn’t want. B & T wanted a child. C & T could have said “no” at any time. B & T were not there to counsel you during this adoption. That should have been done by your parents and April. B & T were willing to give you an open adoption provided you respect their boundaries. You did not respect their boundaries. They owe you nothing. If you can’t hold up your end of the deal, then they won’t either. You are the ones who wanted to give your baby up. If you were listening to the adults you would still have your baby. Your parents told you to not give her up but your 16 year old self believed you were acting more mature than your parents and that giving your child up was the responsible thing to do. Go back and watch your episode again to refresh your memory. I’m sure Carly is a thousand times more mature than the both of you right now. Do you do anything other than sit around and whine about thus adoption. I feel sorry for the not Carly’s you don’t seem to be parenting right now. Your just passing the “trauma” to your kids. Sad. Carly is going to want nothing to do with the shit show of a circus your life is. And you’re just making it worse. You never did grow up. You take no responsibility for your life or your decisions. You blame everyone for everything. I really wish someone would give you a dose of reality because you desperately need it. Do something productive with your life. Go back to Kindergarten and start over.
B & T did not seek them out to ask for the baby. They would not have ever known each other if C&T did not seek out adoption. This is crazy that they are wanting to keep trashing Carly’s parents for wanting their baby. I remember they were fighting April and Butch because they wanted them to keep the baby but C & T were adamant they wanted to give her up. I really feel bad for Carly and her family for them being trashed so much publicly. They are doing the right thing not engaging in this with them.
“children” who were doing adult things.
Carly is going to turn 18 in a few years and join the witness protection program to get away from these loons. Good grief. Enough.
I think they think the day she turns 18 she will be on their doorstep to come live with them. They will be sadly disappointed.
They are going to amp this up even further as soon as she is nearing 18, they have this crazy notion that as soon as she is an adult she will cut off B&T and come back to them. They are delusional
Yes we get it
BIG BAD B&T.. poor, innocent, victimized C&T. If only you poor little babies had adults in your life caller parents. Oh wait, you did! 
B&T saved that sweet little girl from you guys and your circus, maybe a thanks would be nice. Ungrateful brats.
*called
I think we can stop with these articles. They’ve said the exact same thing for the last year. Let’s not give them any more of our time or attention.
That’s kind of what I was thinking too. It’s been the same rigamarole for awhile now. I feel bad for them, but also their behavior isn’t doing them any favors